Zaccheus was of small stature, like a child. And Jesus stopped for him. Our smallest ones need the sacredness of church life to help them. There’s work and leading to do to establish people in lives of faith. (Luke 19:1)

Speaker: Thomas Schaller
Sermon 12701
Date: 2024-04-14
Time: Sun 6:30 pm

P. Roger Robbins –

Okay. Give our band and new band members a hand. Welcome to Sunday night church. It’s a little different
tonight guys. Do you sense that? Do you that? Up here tonight we have a little different set up
yet we do have an iPad and a pulpit and we have P. Schaller who’s going to share tonight about
families and um so welcome the church again.

You know, in our church culture we love to be here and the time just flies by. It just goes right
by. Today was such a great day and we are starting something which I would say has always
been here and that’s this Body, this local church raising families. How many of you have grown
up in this church for one year or 30, right? I mean everyone here, right? If you were all part of
this amazing family and as we give this night a theme, it’s a Sunday night service but it has a
family theme. And for all of you I know you can remember what family meant to you in this

I know there’s so many stories so in the middle of this section here we encourage families to
come out front, so all those rowdy group of people in the middle here are our families with kids
and moms and dads. Let’s give them a hand.

So, this family night is going to – it starts tonight but then it’s going to happen next month and
it will end on the weekend that school is over. Come on! I remember that night. P. Barry is
going to be here celebrating with us. So, for all the kids and folks tonight that got this, this is
something for all of us. Parents included. It has a bookmark in it. It has a place to draw. We can
even follow along with P. Schaller’s drawings tonight maybe and also this is a time where we
want to promote Proverbs.

So, you see the proverb is going to be the proverb of the month for our kids. So, this is Proverbs
14:26. It’s an amazing proverb where it says “in the fear of the Lord there is confidence and his
children find a great amazing refuge.” There is such a refuge in this fear of God and so with that
I want to introduce P. Schaller, but we have a, maybe a little different setup tonight and a
different service that will follow it. But if you would – let’s give this night to God in prayer.
Okay. (Prayer). Would you welcome P. Schaller.

P. Schaller –

Thank you, P. Rog. Thank you. Turn with me to Luke 19. They’ll be three parts to
our message. First Luke 19 and the Gospel and that part and then some statistics and
information and then some personal stories and testimony of our family, my wife and I, and a
little bit of that and then we’ll finish.

So, Luke 19 and great to have a great day today. Praise the Lord. We had a beautiful day and
very blessed in so many ways. Chapter 19:1-3, now we’re going to speak about children tonight
and here we have a full grown adult but he’s a little guy. But he wants to see Jesus. He’s an adult. He has a fully developed mind and he’s very rich and powerful guy, but he is also little
and he wanted to see Jesus.

I just want to use that part of the story to say that there are a lot of little people around us that
are looking for Jesus. How about that? Amen. Come on! Okay. Is that, all right. that’s the
message right there. There are a lot of little people that you can overlook that want to find
Jesus. Sometimes, they are our children and there are other people, too. Sometimes a
teenager. Maybe an adolescent or a young adult and they would like to find Jesus. And so, we
have a great message for those folks and that is that Jesus wants them.

Vs. 4. I remember being a young person in the church life and people were just passing me,
passing by me and I’m wondering if they know about me or care about me. Do they recognize
me? Do they know my name? And then of course, if you’ve been in a big school, public school,
university maybe and you know how that is. People pass by you and they don’t – so the
psalmist said there’s no man that cares for my soul.

But our message tonight by God’s grace is that Jesus Christ, he is the only one that really cares
for us and he will stop. He will stop on his way. He’s going up to Jerusalem actually to be
crucified. He’s on a mission, but along the way he has that sensitivity. He has that care. He has
that spirit and so do we. He stopped. Let’s read vs. 5. He knew his name. vs. 5. I think many of
us who read that story maybe many times, we understand how much both parties – Zacheus in
the tree is looking and he wants to see Jesus – and that Jesus on the ground is looking and he
wants to find him. He wants him. He is after him. That is so encouraging for a parent when you
find that your child is actually seeking and looking. They might be very young.

Here comes that little story part. I think this is working. From zero to five years is that it – I’m
going to put here if you are parents, husband and wife and you’re bringing your children to
church, we can put down the word “work.” Work. How do you get them to church? In one
word, “work.” Why? Diapers, bottles, strollers, car seats, blankets, coloring books maybe. The
whole thing. Pile them all in the van, you know. A lot of them. If you have three of them, all five
and younger, that’s a lot of work. Five year old, three year old, one year old. Congratulations.
Did you make it to church? Could you do it? Could you pile all in? Could you pack up? Could you
get to church? Is it important?

It that part of – how about the tantrum or the anxiety crisis that happens at the drop off point
for your three year old? When they just go into ballistic mode and they feel the anxiety and the
fear and they start crying and yelling and screaming? Anybody here identify? Any mom and
dad? Have you ever had the trauma? Have you children wet his or her pants because of the
trauma and then the pickup? Okay. Is it work? It is. But do we do it? Do we believe it? Are the
little ones valuable to us? What should we do with them? We have to bring them. We have to
keep doing it. Very good. Keep at it.

Then, there’s the age group from six to twelve. And this is they follow. They will come. Promise
them ice cream, large amounts of money, toys, candy. Do whatever you can. Get them in the
car and bring them to church. They will come. No, I got something better. We have to, we are
doing this parenting thing by spirit. Let’s see. I can’t really write that way vertically. Spirit. I
don’t have a lot of – spirit, words and example. They are following our example. Is it worth it?
They will come when they are 12.

What are they learning? What is happening when they are 10, 9, 8, 7? They are learning many
things. They are watching. They are listening to adults. Do you know that language and thought
that goes together, the psychologists tell us, the doctors tell us that a young child when they
are hearing words, the language, then it provokes them in their thoughts. And the thoughts are
very important in children. Like where are their thoughts taking them? What thoughts do they
get? Are they processing language? Are they watching example? Are they learning that church
life is a part of family life. I have my nuclear family and then I have the church family, and if you
are a single parent, the best thing you could do is to bring your children to church as research
shows. There’s some material on that.

What are the challenges when they’re 6 to 12? I don’t know. They’re kind of a little bit goofy.
They’re fun to be with. They’re little people. They’re learning. They’re very sweet and many
times very innocent. Very much you can connect with – they’re amazing. I love that age group.
Isn’t it precious? Man. They get to come. They talk about things on the way home. We drive
home from the church here. We would go home and on the way there was a 25 cent ice cream
sandwich at the Royal Farm or the 7-Eleven and I, we would stop there just once in a while to
celebrate and eat this, eat the ice cream sandwich. And man, when they were little, you just –
25 cents would put them over the top. Man! That was amazing. Dad bought us some ice cream.
It was amazing.

Now, they’re 13 years old and up to 18 years of age, they are now in their teen years. Are we
going to church? Yeah. We always do. It’s part of our family. It’s thinking. It’s talking. It’s
listening. It’s following protocols. It’s learning about things. Like you can teach your teenager
about the Security department, about the Music department, about the finances of the church.
You can talk about new people, about outreach, about elderly people, about a widow, a
teenager. You can talk to children and they are always learning. You have the Spirit of God with
you and the Spirit is important because we are not, we are not angry, tough, angry. What’s the
word? Violent. Angry. Tough. Violent people.

We are spiritual people. We are sensitive. We are communicating. We are listening. We are
loving and we are leading them and guiding them. They can have a fit of rebellion. That
happens as a teenager, but when it comes to our church life and our family, there wasn’t any
discussion about it. We came to church. We led them in that way of thinking and actually at the bottom line, they did enjoy it. They wouldn’t tell you that of course, but they would enjoy it and
benefit from it. So you have a rebellious time maybe. You might have some difficulty. Silent

They’re not talking to you anymore. They talk to their friends and other people in the
church. They might explode with communication on the way home. Dad’s silence. Nobody’s
talking because they don’t want to give you that joy, that happiness that parents have when
they communicate with their kids. It might be like that.

Then you have 19 to 24 young adult period of time. And that’s beautiful. They might be out of
the house, but it might be that they’ve gotten saved. Might be that they are Spirit-filled. Might
be that they think the same way as you do and it might be that you have delivered them as a
result of the church life from the three main problems that happen with young adults, young

I have in the statistics here the primary – oh, boy. I hope I can find it. Yeah. The three big
dangers of adolescence. You might have saved them from depression, from substance abuse,
and from premature sexual activity. You may have – your children may have grown up and
might be that you and in the church you have prevented your children from certain problems
that are very common today in our world.

So, here comes the last part. “People who attend church as children are more likely to grow up
happy.” This is American Family survey 2022. And there’s a lot of material here. You can google
it if you want to read it in more detail, but I’ll just read this. “People who attend church as
children, are also more likely to grow up happy, to be forgiving, to have a sense of mission and
purpose, and to volunteer.”

So, regardless of school type. This is, you have public school and private schools. Regardless of
the type of school, it’s beneficial to go to religious services both as an adolescent and as an
adult. Okay.

“The researchers led by Tyler VanderWeele examined a large swath of data collected over more
than a decade which tracked the development of 12,000 nurses’ children into their young
adulthood. The longitudinal study surveyed social, physical, mental health trends across the
group like substance abuse, anxiety, depression, community engagement, and sexual activity.
The team was curious about how schooling choices and religious service attendance correlated
to health outcomes. Here’s what they found” and then he gives the results and I mentioned
that to you in a brief word. That it wasn’t the kind of school that they went to. It was their
religious involvement in church life. “Those two spaces, home and church, are vital to human
health and flourishing.”

By the way, I stumbled into this in our life, my wife and I. I’m 72 years old. She’s 70. And we
look back at our life. We go, how did we get here? How did this happen? How did this happen?

And the answer is the church, the Spirit, the grace, the Word, friends, prayer, God. God gave
the church and P. Stevens, our pastor who brought up in this way of thinking was very diligent
about it. Very fervent about it. And we brought our kids and we went to three services a week
all our lives. Fifty years. All our lives. And our kids with us and so on.

And I don’t want any comparison. I’m not trying to say anything about comparison because
who knows how life works. I’m not saying we can figure it out. I’m not saying but statistically
and it’s for our benefit and the little ones around us many times they do want to see Jesus, but
how will they see Jesus? In the story, he climbed up in a tree and Jesus met him. And I think
when young people come to the church, it might be in their hearts they’re looking for Jesus
Christ and he will meet them and we will see things happen perhaps.

It doesn’t mean that we have it figured out. I do not know, but there’s like ups and downs but I
just want to say we had a good time at it and by God’s grace we stayed positive. We had a
tendency at times, we were very low. Very low. Very worried. Very broken. Very much on our
face. Very much on our knees. Very much concerned about the future. There were times when
we were just silent in sorrow almost. We didn’t wear it on our sleeve, but we just kept – like we
just kind of believed and Justin got Barry Quirk as a family member, you know. Kyle had
somebody. Bethany found somebody. Angela Delaware maybe. And Amy, my daughter Amy
and on it. The story is beautiful.

The Body of Christ and learning to sit in a church service and be a part of it as a little person and
for people to recognize their name. Know them. And for people to care for them like our great
teachers do and our great school and our Sunday school activities and our music program. And
our athletic program. I mean can you have any better coach than Pat Lynch and Jen Lynch. Can
you have anything better than that? Could you have a better school principal than Barry Quirk?
Man, could you have a better teacher than Teresa Hoffses? And on you can go with Eduardo
and all the names and Jen Brooks and all the precious people. Could you have a better school
program and I’m just very, very thankful. So, that’s what we’re talking about tonight. Amen.
God bless you. Thank you, Jesus. Hey, let’s have a prayer right now for salvation. (Prayer).

P. Roger Robbins –

As I was talking and I remember the phrase – I don’t know if you’ve heard it
– it takes a village to raise children, right? it’s a very famous quote that was actually, they don’t
know who, where it came from. Maybe Africa or another country. It was very ancient, old, but I
was thinking as P. Schaller was speaking like it takes Christ to raise children. Like period. It takes
Christ. It started with Christ and it continues and it will some day end with Christ, right? it’s

So, this is the offering and I want to invite – this night is a participant – like a bunch of different
participants that are of all ages and also father. So, could we welcome David Eason to take the
offering tonight. Come on up. He was one of the soldiers in this play, this last Easter play. He is a husband to Lucy. This is Lucy and he’s a father to four: Caleb, Joshua, Samuel and I think
Nathan, right? Yeah. I passed the test! Come on!

David Eason –

All right. I’ll make this quick. Thank you for that. Isn’t that amazing that we have a
family night? Amen. I’ll just start from Luke 4 and I’ll make it quick. Vs. 4. And I was thinking as
we were getting ready for the offering, how our families need the Word of God. Like our
spouses need it. Our children need it. And isn’t it amazing just like what P. Schaller said that we
come here to be fed not by bread but by the Spirit of the living God. And we can’t say how
much we thank this church for feeding us more than bread but our souls. That our wives, our
children, and the Grace Hour said our neighbors. That we can invite them. Amen. Amen. So let’s
just pray for the offering and thank God and be able to give back to a church that blesses us so
much. Amen. (Prayer)

P. Roger Robbins –

Okay, so, we’ve cut away a little bit more time. We’re going to do something
a little different tonight. As you see this setup here. We even have a crafted family pillow. But
more important than the couches and these pillows and chairs and this rug and lamps and as
much as this is something, it’s the people that sit on it.

And we’re going to do something different. It’s going to be called Proverb Improv. Okay.
Proverb Improv. And we are a culture, we have taken on the culture of reading Proverbs. How
many of you guys read Proverbs as a kid? Maybe your mom or dad gave you a proverb, right?
Look at all the kids raising their hands. They’re like yeah. So, you know there’s so many chapters
in the book of Proverbs and there’s one for every day of the month. And so, we want to invite
three young children that are part of the church here to come and sit on the stage.

I think it’s Zoe, Rapha, and Hazel. Why don’t we welcome them up and then P. Schaller as well.
And Proverb Improv is the time where we’re just going to hear from these awesome young
individuals because you know they have something to say. And they have a little bit of wisdom
and one of the things they can do is listen. Do you know that? One of the wisest things you can
do the proverb, Proverbs teaches us to listen. And listen to our elders and listen to those
around us ’cause blessed is the person that gets wisdom in Proverbs 3:31, uh 3:13. So, here’s P.

P. Schaller –

So, did you memorize a proverb? Do you know which proverb it is? It’s 14:28.
Okay. Or 26. Okay. In the fear of the Lord – are you with me Rog on this or no? We got one
chair? Do you want to – I need a backup. I mean we’re okay. So, “in the fear of the Lord one has
strong confidence and his children will have a refuge.” Yes, God. Okay. So, I’m going to – do you
know that proverb? I mean did your parents go over that with you? I feel like I’ve heard it
before but. Okay. Raph, do you know it? No. Okay, so and then let’s see. Raph, Hazel and Zoe,
okay. Do you know it? I really do not know. Okay. Okay.

P. Roger Robbins –

Well, I think this is a perfect example of what – this is how it starts in our
home is that we don’t know the proverb because we haven’t read it yet. I think one of the
things that I love and I want you guys maybe to help me out here. One of the things that I love
is that I find myself in the proverb. And we look for proverbs that have ourselves in there. And
this proverb says, “in the fear of the Lord one has strong confidence…” We could say that part is
for us personally.

And what do you guys think about that? Where do you find your confidence, in your strength?
As we go to school, maybe being with our families, where do you find your confidence? This
says in the fear of the Lord. Rapha, what do you think that means? Confidence. Like in everyday
things or? Oh, I don’t know. Um, right like when I’m driving to Jiu-Jitsu, I find me and my dad will
– dad and I will talk. Like we’ll talk in the car a lot and we’ll have, sometimes I’ll be super
overwhelmed with everything cuz we’ll be rushing out of the house and we’ll talk about the
Bible and different things. And sometimes, yeah. When I’m talking with my dad.

Fear gets ahold of us. The wrong type of fear. But how about when we fear God and God gets a
hold of us. Has that ever happened to you Zoe? Like has that ever happened to you? God gets a
hold of you. Yes. Hazel? What would you say about having the fear of God in your life? It’s not
like fear where like you’re scared of something. It’s like where, when your dad’s like trying to
tech you a lesson. Gives you a whooping and he’s done that plenty of times. And you’re like
scared of him but you respect him, so you don’t want to like do it again. So, when you fear the
Lord you respect him and you listen to him.

P. Schaller, what would you say to these guys as they go to school. They go home tonight to
their families that are here tonight. What would you say to us as those growing up in the faith.
Young. Like you described tonight those different age groups. What would you say to us as we
try to gather wisdom?

I think what we want you to know that you are loved. That all these people and even behind
that camera over there, there’s a whole bunch of more people. And that you are loved. And this
is God’s family and we’re really happy that you had the courage to come up and sit on the nice
sofa and be in front of everybody. Like that’s not easy but you did it.

Zoe, do you like doing this? Yes. Okay. And I think, uh I think, you know, we have the fear of the
Lord and confidence. They go together like Hazel said, you know. To have respect for God and
then to think that that gives us confidence. And you know when you have confidence and you’re
growing up, you start to think I know my mom and dad loves me. I know my friends care about
me. I think things are going to work out okay. I’m on the baseball team or something. Maybe we
will lose but I think the coach is going to help us and maybe we will win. You know. You live like
that, so we’re happy for you. That’s all. Did you want to say something more?

P. Roger –

Maybe one thing I’d like to ask these guys. What does it mean like in this verse it
says that from this fear comes confidence. And then there’s this key word at the end. It says a
refuge. We think of our homes as a refuge, you know. This couch is very comfortable. It’s a
place of refuge after a day of school. Being in school can be difficult or challenging. Where do
you find refuge in your days? Where do you get that? Rapha, you want a? I’d have to think
about that a little. Maybe you want.

Zoe –

my bed. That’s a great place to have refuge. What do you do there in your bed? I put on
my bonnet and I usually like play with my dolls and everything. Okay. Anything else that we do
before we go to bed as a place of refuge. What’s one of the things that we do with mom and
dad? We pray before bed, right? How about reading before bed? Yeah? You guys do that? How
many of you guys talk to God before bed? Yeah? That’s awesome. You know, this place of
refuge is just that is knowing that you’re loved and you have a place to go. It’s that place of
refuge. It’s a place of safety like we said.

I mentioned earlier like this Body of Christ, we find a refuge. We see that this place of refuge is
a place of safety and in that Jesus shows us that we, as it says in John 10, that no one can take
us out of the Father’s hand. It’s so, it’s so safe. Any closing last words for you guys. What do you
think? As we look at this proverb and think about it, we’re going to take this home.

The encouragement here is that we put this on our refrigerators. How many of you guys put
things on your refrigerators? You guys put, you know. Hazel: I don’t have any more room. And
also, I want to ask how many kids tonight doodled on their piece of paper? Can you put up your
piece of paper? Show us your drawings? Come on Yeah. Let’s go. Okay. Well, let’s give these
guys a hand. Great job. Zoe, you’re so awesome.

Okay. As a closing song, we’re going to have a closing song and a closing prayer. As the band
comes up here, maybe this is also a time if families here that are new to the church or maybe
family members that have been coming to the church a long time, you’ve seen new people that
are coming out. Family members that come on Sunday. There are a lot of new people that have
come around and I want to encourage you guys to invite them Tuesday nights to the
Newcomers. We have new families that come.

And then another group of families that I want to acknowledge tonight are new families with
babies. So, I know that there’s Liz and Josh Anderson tonight. I want to congratulate them and
Mataus. Mataus. Did I say it right? Mataus. And
then I know there’s Malachi that was prayed for during the dedication. There was Grant. And I
think there was one more. So, we want to thank you and welcome you to church. Okay. So, let’s
sing. (Song)

Amazing. This is our church, right? Isn’t it amazing? Praise the Lord and hallelujah! I was just
thinking looking at all these awesome families. Look around guys. It’s amazing. We are here
Sunday night in the house of the Lord. Thank you so much for coming.


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