An anchor holds fast to the seabed. We can life in attachment to Heaven. Throne is very important in Christian culture. About Heaven’s throne, there is room for counsel, for discussion. The loyalty of love holds things together. All the provisions for this world are in the Throne. John 18:27; Revelation 3:21; 4:1-6; 1 Corinthians 9:24-27; 3:12-14

Speaker: Gary Groenewold, Thomas Schaller
Sermon #13133
Date: 2026-05-24
Time: Sun 6:30 pm

P. Schaller –

Isn’t that great worship? Beautiful. Turn with me to John chapter 18. So, we had a beautiful service this morning on the throne of God from Revelation chapter 4. I’m going to speak for a short time. Do part of it, and then I asked P. Gary Groenewold to share also tonight. So, I want you to look at this verse, John 18:37. 

 

So, if he is a king, where is his throne, but it’s in heaven. So, turn to Revelation 4 with me, and we’ll review a few things about the throne. Throne is a great word for us. Maybe in our culture we are not so much familiar with a king and a throne but we know in our faith that it’s very fundamental and very important. 

 

John saw a door open in chapter 4:1 and the first voice which I heard was a trumpet talking with me. I love trumpets. How about you? Almost you feel like sometimes they are talking to you and that depth of sound, that rich sound that comes. So, we have a perception issue here with colors in heaven and sounds. We talked about the thunder this morning. Maybe we could put up John 12:29 on the screen.

 

So, we have chapter 4 and then we have the throne. So, the people therefore that stood by and heard it said that it thundered. Others said an angel spoke to him. We read in this chapter that thunders and lightnings proceed from the throne and voices and then seven lamps of fire burning. That’s in verse 5. 

 

We also said that we kind of drew the picture of a throne, and I wonder how I can – let’s do an elaborate throne. Not good. Not good. Okay. So, we had the surrounding 24 elders seated there and then the vertical surrounding is the emerald green rainbow, not a rainbow but like a bow. 

 

So, the backdrop is green. Then God himself is like a translucent gem shining with depth, like a gem has a depth in its color. So, this is John describing the throne and then the seven lamps and there were a couple words that we wrote down and I want to repeat them. 

 

#1 here we said “order.” And we see order and reason in the universe, because God uses law and has the sensible nature of the universe so that things can be explained in the universe by mathematics which men, men and women have, can study the universe and explain the universe and the laws that operate in it, whether it’s gravity or electricity or magnetism or powers. We got nuclear, we’ve got all kinds of science that says the universe is not an accident. There’s a mind behind it or a throne that is behind the universe.

 

The second thing that we see in this is holiness. That the creatures that are around the throne they say, Holy, holy, holy in verse 8. Wow! Like wouldn’t you get bored saying that? Unless when you are there, that your nature has changed and that you are no longer a sinner. You are no longer limited by flesh. We’re no longer limited by our own fallen nature, but you are a worshipper in an incredible magnitude because God is this way. He is holy and it resonates with us in heaven as John saw this site, because holiness is an incredible thing. 

 

You know, it’s something honestly that and I think you know, we know this in reading the Bible. It’s the fundamental thing that we lost. When we sinned, we lost holiness. We left the garden. We left God. We found ourselves in our sin and have suffered as a result. 

 

But then how could God and his throne be holy and then make a world where the fall happens that we sin. The devil, Lucifer, is in heaven and God allows this fall to happen, and that’s part of the nature of the throne, that the throne is not despotic. You know this word. You know, the throne is governing but it is counsel. There is holy counsel in the Trinity. 

 

You also have, so you have three in one and they had, it’s called the determinate counsel of God of Acts 2:23. Please, could you put that up on the screen, Acts 2:23, that Christ was delivered to Pontius Pilate by the determinate counsel of God. And that God has, always has been, always will be, has in his mind, in his wisdom this world that is suffering and chaotic and painful. 

 

And he’s allowing it because in his plan, he has the ultimate goal is that this world will be perfect. That’s what the throne has determined, that the world ultimately – we will be in Revelation 22 in a perfect universe but getting there is painful. 

 

And one of the reasons for that is because God in his wisdom on the throne has determined that love, and I’ll put there in the counsel here. I put two words there, because the counsel is apparently not only three but has 24 thrones around the throne and presumably there is in the government an expanded, an expanded side to this governance of God, because you and I are included in the governance of God. We are by the grace of God. 

 

He hears us. He tells us to pray to him. He says that if you will be humble, I will exalt you. I will use you. I will crown you with glory and honor. I will clothe you in white raiment. I have taken your sin away and redeemed you by my blood. I bought you with my blood, and now I have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you and you will be the bride of Christ. So, this is very interesting to us that this is an unfolding plan from the throne of God. 

 

Now, I wanted to say something about the essential nature of the council and that is the loyalty. It is to love and then a side word, a word you could call, we could say “loyalty.” What is the meaning of it? Well, think about it. What’s the essential thing that Christ did when he came? He was God incarnate and he came into the world and he suffers. 

 

What is the one thing that you see in his life that the Father would love? What was it that the Father enjoyed about Christ? Why did he say? This is my beloved son. Hear him. I am well pleased with him. Why did he say it?

 

Because the Son loved the Father, the Father loved the Son, and the Son loved the Father. And how is it translated in the experience of Christ? It is – he’s standing before Pilate and he’s saying I am a king. I am. And I am loyal to my Father. I am staying with him. I am trusting him with all my heart. My Father who is on his throne is the one that I know from the beginning. I’ve always known him. We have been together. John 17. 

 

Restore unto me the glory that I had with you from the beginning. I mean from eternity past in John 17. And Christ goes through this life and he dies, he suffers, he dies, and he’s raised from the dead, raised, ascended into heaven and is at the right hand of God. 

 

What’s the primary element in the message? The Father is pleased with him because he loves him. The love is translated into loyalty. The loyalty around the throne. The submission to God as Almighty God. And I mean, I mean, I’m just thinking with you about this throne, this nature of God and he is holy without sin and this loyalty and this love never fails. 

 

Now, in our life as we are here in this world, we are now also holy sinners but redeemed and indwelt by the Holy Spirit. We also have, what’s this called? Holy Bible. What is the Body of Christ? It’s a holy assembly. The flesh is not part of the governance of God. 1 Corinthians 1:31. But the flesh is on the outside. The fellowship is holy. God made us holy. We have the Spirit of God that dwells in us and with us in a holy congregation, Psalm 40, The great congregation. And Jesus said, I did not hold back the righteousness from the great congregation. 

 

What is a great congregation? It’s a holy one. It’s where the throne of God, the holy throne of God is on the earth in spirit and mind and in the nature of Christ who is holy. Like even if I suffer, I will be loyal. Why did Job – why was God saying, Satan, you know my servant Job and that big contest? I can get him to curse you to your face. The Lord said, Go ahead. You can have him. Give it a try. And Job did not. 

 

Why did it – in his suffering, it was terrible. It was horrible. Let’s not underestimate that or underplay that. That’s amazing suffering. Horrible suffering. Terrible suffering. And we all wonder maybe in our own hearts what would, what would make me curse God and die? What would make me to give up and hate it and hate God and hate everything that I have seen or heard or believed in? What would it take? 

 

Well, it just takes my flesh. I’m very capable of it. but if we walk in the Spirit and we learn to drink the Spirit, I believe we’ll be fine. I believe God will take care of me. I believe that his grace is greater than our sin. And that God who has called us, who also will do it. Faithful is he would called us, who will sanctify us spirit, soul, and body, and present us blameless before him one day in Jude 24 and 1 Thessalonians 5:24. Isn’t that good news? In Philippians 1, Philippians 1:6, and we will drink of the rivers of his pleasure, Psalm 36:9, from yesterday’s message. 

 

All right. Lastly, what about this throne? What is it about it? The Lord is saying to the seven churches, there were things that he said. But the last church was Laodicean. And he said to them, to those that overcome, they will make, I will grant to sit with me in my throne, 3:21, even as I also overcame and have sat down with my Father in his throne. That’s it. We that overcome will sit down with him in his throne. I don’t know. I can’t read it any other way. 

 

That he that overcomes and that’s us. We are overcomers. We are, Romans 8:37. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors. We are, by the finished work. So, let’s walk in that. And as we walk in that, we have this great sense that we sit down with Christ in his throne. 

 

And while we are living here on this earth, we should have some sense of the authority of God in our heart. We should have. Like sometimes. Okay, there are times we don’t have that feeling. All right. Sometimes we get really defeated and very depressed and discouraged. 

 

You know, in our trial here in the last two years, I lost 15 pounds. I weighed, I never, I haven’t weighed that weight since high school. I got skinny. And people, some of them said to me, You got to eat more. And I said, Well, mind your own business! No, I’m joking. Okay. So, yeah, we’re okay. But we’re okay.

 

But I’m saying it’s not always easy. It’s not easy. It’s not always easy. But if you and I could be walking with God and get his grace and find our comfort and find truth and wisdom and power and blessing. And that’s what I’m saying. I feel that God is saying to us in our hearts. I am with you. Don’t stop. Believe me. 

 

Please go into all the world with the Gospel. Please love each other. Please dispel the tension that is between people by walking with the holy God. Because in the holiness of God, there is the oil where the fellowship is deep and the fellowship is encouragement and the vision is a bible school and a day school and more, and the lost and one person in a nursing home and a hospital and somebody in the other side of the planet hearing a word of encouragement and being built up, because this is the throne of God is not a joke. 

 

It’s the reality of God in this troubled world and saying, trust me because I am God and I am with you. And go into all the world and preach the Gospel. And lo I am with you unto the end of the age, Jesus said. 

 

So, what’s the primary thing? I think it is to get counsel from the throne, to be part of that interaction where we are interacting with each other in God building up each other in God.

 

Hey, listen. Can we tear each other down? Can we? Turn to your neighbor and just say, I’m not going to do that to you, but could we tear each other down? Could we? Could I find something out about Sturge? Come on over here. Could I find something about him? Oh, I can find it. It’s written all over him. Can I tear him down? I can. And I know none of us want to do that. We don’t do that. I know that. I know that. 

 

But I’m just trying to say the world does and my flesh does. And I look in the mirror at my own self. I tear myself down. I do. I look at my life or I look in the mirror or I’m with a brother or sister and we all get down and we become very negative and very possibly, you know. I’m just saying like don’t do that. He’s awesome. I mean, build him up. He needs help. He needs a lot of help. I need help. I do.

 

Now, Jesus said to Pilate, they said that Pilate said this is a pagan world. And Pilate knows that there may be gods walking around, gods in the mountains and gods in the world. Pilate knows. And this man, Pilate’s been in power 10 years. He’s heard about Jesus on the streets of Jerusalem. He’s heard about Jesus healing the blind. He’s heard about Jesus. We’re sure he has. 

 

Now, Jesus sent in and he said, Are you a king then? Yes. I am. Wow. That’s scary. So, that’s it for our message tonight. Praise the Lord. Let’s give in the offering like kings. We are kings and priests. Let’s give in the offering like we came from heaven. As the Father sent me, so I sent you. Let’s live above and beyond ourselves and pray and love each other deeply all the time. In Jesus’ name. Bless this offering, Lord. Amen. Love you guys. Praise the Lord. 

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Gary Groenewold – Yeah, it’s beautiful to worship together. It is. Just the dynamics of it. You know, a song, worship, Word, people. Sturge and P. Schaller. It’s amazing. Lightning. Do you see the lightning? Did anybody see the lightning this morning? Did you see that thunder? No one heard the thunder.

 

I’ll tell you, maybe I’ll tell you a story. Can I tell, just tell a story since Lisa Schaller’s not here tonight. I will tell because P. Schaller told me don’t tell this story to my wife! Since she’s not here, I’ll tell the congregation the story. Okay. Okay. I’m telling the congregation, Lisa. Okay. No, but you’ll enjoy it. You’ll enjoy it. He didn’t say don’t tell you. I think you’ll enjoy it. You can go sit with him. P. Schaller, can you sit with your wife, please? P. Schaller, you have to sit with your wife. Okay. 

 

This is a true story, and it’s not a fault of his but well, maybe. But we were gonna go wind surfing, and you know, he likes to wind surf when there’s good waves and wind. And, you know, and usually that happens when there’s good weather or bad weather we should say. And so anyway, he came over to my house to go wind surfing, and we got his board ready and I got mine half ready. And then he took off and then I got mind down to the water and looked up, and I say this dark cloud coming over. It was coming fast out of nowhere. Literally out of nowhere. And he’s a good wind surfer. 

 

And so, I got my board into the water and I look out. It’s coming. All of a sudden, I see P. Schaller’s down. And he’s just, he’s down and he’s a good wind surfer. So, I’m like, you know, he should be getting up, but he didn’t get up. And I’m like, oh no, he’s hurt. 

 

So, you know, and the clouds coming over and I’m like, well, and I see it’s got lightning and thunder. And I’m like, well, you know, if he’s hurt, if he’s going to die out there, I said, I might as well, you know, die trying to save him. You know, that was the idea. 

 

And so, I get on my kayak and then and my dog wants to get on and go. And so all of a sudden, you know, I was like extra weight. But then I thought, well, I’ll leave my dog on the kayak because he’s up higher than me. He thought it was like some majestic voyage. And I’m down there low, hoping the lightning doesn’t hit me. 

 

I’m literally down there low and like going out there. P. Schaller is like 300 years out, and I get out there about a hundred yards and all of a sudden, I see a bolt of lightning just go wham! Whammo! And it’s like to this little peninsula about 300 yards away.

 

And, you know, when you hear lightning and you start to count, right? Because you went out 7 seconds a mile, right? Is that right? Something like that. And then I didn’t even get to one. It was, I was on one, you know, starting my one and it hit and it’s like, you’re just like, oh no! It’s like, you know, you think you’re the next target, but I got my dog there. He’s up there nice and high. He’s my lightning rod. I’m hoping, you know, I’m going to sacrifice my dog and I’m going to be safe. 

 

And so, you know, P. Schaller’s injured out there…and but it’s like so I went out. I finally reached him and got him on my board. And I got him on my kayak. And, you know, we got his board like secured to mine and then, you know, we’re paddling in. P. Schaller is like on the board like pushing and I’m paddling as hard as I go. Can’t go anywhere, because all the drag from the wind surfer. 

 

And it’s like we got halfway in and the storm is gone. Finally. But we’re like, we’re like paddling in. We’re like afraid, laughing, and praying and, you know, saying it’s – we didn’t know. All kinds of fear but all kinds of laughter, because what else do you do? Because you don’t know what’s going to happen. 

 

And, you know what happened? We made it back safely. We made it back safe. And, yeah. I think he has, he watches YouTube and he’s got like this list. He just was like looking at thunder and lightning all the time. Because there was another time. No, I won’t! No, no, no, no. Okay. I won’t tell that story. Okay. 

 

Great, great thoughts from God. I was thinking that, you know, Paul didn’t even have this, was after Paul, right? He didn’t have this, right? He didn’t have this, did he? No. I just like this is amazing. Revelation chapter 4 and 5. What it is. I want to speak about the anchor of our soul. 

 

Actually, I was thinking about – P. Schaller mentioned that this morning about like the world is like there’s two kingdoms. There’s this kingdom we’re hearing about in Revelation chapter 4. And then there’s this world that we’re living in. And it’s so, you could say in one sense hard, disgusting at times, trials, difficulties, tensions, worldliness, unhappiness, difficulties. Just hardships in life, right? There is, this is life out here. 

 

But then we migrate to that throne room where John was in the Spirit. And just think of what happens when we’re in the Spirit. What can happen? There really is a spiritual world, and we can life in the Spirit. We can have the fruits of the Spirit. We can live a life that is pleasing to God. We can live a life that is attached to God. 

 

And in the message this morning, he also, if you heard, I don’t know which one it was. But he said, you know, some people just say like, Hey, I just want to get to heaven. That’s good enough. Did anybody hear that today? It’s just good enough. And you know, that’s all I really want. 

 

That’s crazy. That’s absolutely crazy. That’s not even life. That’s like being deceived. That’s like darkness, because we can – Hebrews chapter 6. It speaks about our soul having an anchor inside of the veil, inside of the presence of God. And what is an anchor is attached to ground. It’s not in the water. It’s attached to something else. This is where Christ’s presence is. 

 

Just to think more about this throne room realm. Just all of the authority in that room that the kingdom of God, you could say his wisdom. Just imagine John going to that room and just seeing, just sensing the power, but also the rest, right? Just, not just that. And then all the wisdom. All the wisdom and all the power and God takes his strings and he goes into the world with. Okay.

 

This throne room is attached to this throne, is attached to God’s sovereignty in this world. It’s attached to God’s faithfulness. You know, faith is he we heard yesterday. Faith is he who called you and he will – where’s that coming from? It’s coming from that throne room. It’s coming into our lives where we see God’s faithfulness, where it’s not my provision but it’s God’s wisdom and God’s power acting in my life. Okay. 

 

So, that’s just an amazing – it’s holy. We just learned tonight. It’s holy. It’s been sanctified. It’s just like, holiness is like what we lost. It’s what we long for, right? It’s what we long for. We want that experience in our life of, you know, a holy, a holy priesthood, you know, a holy nation, the Holy Spirit, a holy calling. Where’s that holy calling come from? It’s coming from the throne of God. 

 

So, just a few thoughts here. Turn to 1 Corinthians chapter 9 because to be carnally minded is death, right? Isn’t it? it really is. It really is. To have that throne to be available to us and not live by his provisions. God’s saying that’s death. 

 

And then, what did I say? 1 Corinthians chapter 9, right? This is vs. 24. Imagine having a reason to stumble and not to obtain. Discovering a reason on this earth not to obtain. Wow. Can you imagine the provisions that are in that throne for this world? is there not a provision in that throne for every situation in this life? There has to be. Otherwise, that throne is not all powerful. Otherwise, God is not God. 

 

In Romans, in Hebrews chapter 6, he swore by two immutable things. The Word and his counsel, the Word and his oath. It’s like God swore by himself. Like, I’m going to do it. And that’s the, it’s anchored. It’s on ground. It’s not, you know, our life is not on the water. You know, the sea billows and the calm and then the storm. The calm and then the storm. In the calm, in the storm, but we can have our soul anchored. 

 

But so, I want to run to receive the prize. And every man that striveth for mastery is temperate in all things. Now, they do it to obtain a corruptible crown, but we have an incorruptible crown. We’re attached to the throne room. An incorruptible crown. 

 

Vs. 26. What is beating the air? You could say living in wisdom from below. It’s earthly. It’s sensual and then it’s devilish. Wisdom from below always progresses downward and it always starts in a way that doesn’t seem wrong. It’s justifiable. This is the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And does anybody want that? We don’t want it. We actually don’t have to have it. Okay. We don’t have to live carnally in this life. 

 

Vs. 26-27. It’s like Paul, he didn’t want to do this. He preached but it was just words. It wasn’t from the throne. He went through the motions, and then at the end of his life, it’s like a millstone being ground. It’s like I can’t grind any more flour. Just, you just throw it away. Paul didn’t want that in his life. He wanted it to count for eternity. He wanted it to be drawn from the throne room. 

 

So, look at 1 Corinthians. This is what I was thinking. 1 Corinthians chapter 3. Okay. Vs. 12. Kind of sounds like the throne room, doesn’t it? Sounds like a place where God is. It sounds like where God’s authority is. It sounds like something that’s connected to God. Sounds like where the life of God is. Wood, hay, and stubble. Sounds like the creation. Sounds like the earth, right? Okay. 

 

Vs. 13. Maybe if we were attached to that throne room or not, maybe we stopped. We had our own anchor in the world. We had our own anchor in our own way. What a difference in life, right? Does that create a difference in life? Is it there? Is there joy? There’s peace. It’s like, can you imagine this? There’s a provision for everything that I go through, instead of staying here and saying, I don’t like what’s going on. I don’t want to, you know, I don’t want that provision and I don’t like what’s going on. 

 

So, what provision are you going to have? What do you get? It’s just, it’s just, I don’t want that provision. And I’m going to provide my own provision. I don’t like that one, because that’s not me. That’s just the grace of God. That’s where the grace of God is. That’s his throne of grace right over there. That’s what he wants to give us. 

 

We say, I’ll stop right there. I think that sounds like, you know, maybe a root of bitterness might spring up. Do you think so? But we don’t have to live there. Nobody has to live there. You know, it’s like, do I want to live in the lust of my flesh? Do I want to live a lustful life? Do I want to live in like jealousy? Do I want to live in envy? Do I want to live in like hurting others? 

 

You know, it’s like, it’s like there’s a provision. So, I don’t actually have to do that. There is another life. There’s a Gospel. The Gospel isn’t the Gospel that I tell my wife and that I say, Hey, we want to live here. The Gospel is the Gospel. It’s in that throne room. The Gospel isn’t the gospel that I create. It doesn’t work.  And so, there’s another way to live. That’s what we’re learning about. 

 

It’s like, you know, Paul didn’t have access. We got access to Revelation chapter 4. That’s like this is, this is unbelievable. We’re in that room in the Spirit. It’s like he’s there. Redemptive bodies are inside there. That’s what it looks like, you know, the 24 elders. So, let’s just read this. 

 

Vs. 13. Where did I stop at? How far did I let God – did I let God grab me? Did I throw my anchor into there? Did I throw it in? Did I just try that one time and find the provision of God? To find like, oh, I don’t have to think like that. I can literally put my anchor, oh, it’s such a different world. 

 

Hey, Kathy, do you know what it’s like to throw your anchor? It’s like, it’s incredible. This is an incredible life, to throw your anchor over there on that side. It’s a sure place. It’s immovable. It’s got, it’s got this covenant attached to it. 

 

Let’s live there. Hey, it will solve all of our problems. I don’t have to be, you know, wise in this world. I can be foolish in this world, because we love the cross. We can be foolish. It looks really foolish, right? But it’s attached to the – that’s not, you go in there and it’s like, hey, if you went into that throne room, you would say. Whoa! That’s wisdom, man. That is not foolishness. That’s the power of God. That is holiness right inside of there. That’s what I want. Taste and see that the Lord is – you go in that room one time and that’s what you actually want. 

 

You say like we said today, like let’s repent. We said let’s see if there be any evil way in me, 1 John 1:9. You know what I mean? Just cleanse us from that stubbornness that doesn’t want to go into that room. Doesn’t want like God say, please come in. That’s where I want you to live. There’s no other way to live. There’s no gray area. There is no gray area. 

 

And you think there’s unity and loyalty over here? I think so. It’s like we learned. It’s like the Trinitarian unity that can be experienced by us. We’re going to be tried basically if we’re attached to this throne or not, because it’s going to produce some fruit in our life. It can produce some crowns. Okay. 

 

That’s life. That’s what we’re talking about all the time in church. You know, we want our lives like, you know, I want my life to be – I’m coming to church from now on so my life is attached inside that throne in Revelation chapter 4. Okay. 

 

Because the fire is going to, is going to tell us what kind of life we had. Wood, hay, or stubble. Oh yeah, we stopped short. Stubbornness kept me from going through. What’s so hard about saying yes to God? I’m saying it to myself. What’s so hard about saying yes to God? 

 

Like Gary, finally learning something about the faithfulness of God. I can’t believe it’s like you just feel, you feel so confident when you’re attached to the faithfulness of God. It’s one of his names. And it’s like you can go through some. It’s like, oh wow, what a different experience to be here experiencing what I used to experience versus being over here and experiencing what I used to experience. I’’s like one is like life and peace. One is death. Okay. 

 

Love that about the voice, the thunder and lightning getting our attention, you know, and then the conviction. The conviction. Like get you to make a decision. It’s time to make a decision. You know, it’s not just now in church. It’s the Spirit. It’s time to make a decisions. Attach yourself inside the throne room. Put your anchor over there. Okay. 

 

Vs. 13b. Because this is the transition in Revelation. We’re leaving the churches and we’re going in, you know, the Rapture, you know, the Tribulation, the Millennial kingdom. We’re going into that. We’re leaving the church age. Our lives are going to be tried. 

 

That’s why these tests come and God is like, you know, this trial comes in our lives and it’s like, you know, we throw our anchor over. Just throw it over there and like just like God is like tugging. You feel me? You feel me? You feel the fellowship in your suffering with me? You feel it? You feel it? That’s me tugging on. That’s me tugging on. You’re not doing anything. You’re feeling me over here. I’m doing it all. 

 

You sense my presence? That’s me. I’m over here. You put your anchor over here. You’re sensing my wisdom, my authority, my power. It’s coming from my throne. I’m waiting to be gracious to you. Just throw your anchor over here. Okay. 

 

Vs. 14. He shall receive a reward. We saw in Laodicea, the last, what P. Schaller read at the end. It’s like we can when we repent, when we believe, when we change our thinking, it’s like and it’s like when we overcome, we’re in that throne room. We sit upon the throne. We’re with God. It really does work that way. Okay? Like that is our reward. 

 

And it’s like, you know, like that will be our reward. But we’re talking about this now. And you’re over here and you’re feeling all these tugs from God. You put your anchor over here and you’re sensing the presence of God in the middle of your trial and you’re like, yeah, that’s my food. That’s my food. That’s what I live off of. I feel the tug from God. Whatever way it is. 

 

So, that’s what I got out of like today’s messages in a little but, But yeah, I’m excited about the throne room. This throne. It’s amazing. And you said like in that water over there or in this side it is calm. It’s just like you sense the peace, the power, all that, all that like authority and just the government of God. And it’s so powerful, but it’s like, it’s clear as crystal. It’s just flat. It’s just peace. It’s rest. Okay. 

 

There’s no sense of a storm. Everything’s under control. And that’s where our anchor is attached to. Okay. So, yeah, this isn’t just Revelation is not just a book to have, you know. A nice story. I’’s a book to apply in our lives. (Prayer)

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